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3.2 Regular New Model Army – RNMA

Chapter 3 – Models & Variations of the Centaure

3.2 First Model or Regular New Model Army (RNMA)

 

 

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3.2

3.2.1

 

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3.2.1.3

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3.2.1.4

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3.2.1.5

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3.2.1.7.

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3.2.1.7.2

 

First Model or Regular New Model Army (RNMA)

Common Characteristics of the Regular New Model Armies (RNMAs)

RNMA 1st Variation – Key Features

RNMA 1st Variation 1st Sub-Variation

RNMA 1st Variation 2nd Sub-Variation

RNMA 1st Variation 3rd Sub-Variation

RNMA 1st Variation – Extra Cylinders

RNMA 1st Variation – Pricing, Serial Number Ranges

RNMA 1st Variation – FAQ

 

RNMA 2nd Variation – Key Features

RNMA 2nd Variation 1st Sub-Variation

RNMA 2nd Variation 2nd Sub-Variation

RNMA 2nd Variation – Pricing, Serial Number Ranges

RNMA 2nd Variation – FAQ

 

RNMA 3rd Variation – Key Features

RNMA 3rd Variation 1st Sub-Variation

RNMA 3rd Variation 2nd Sub-Variation

Recollections of contemporary Witness Paul Roberts

RNMA 3rd Variation 3rd Sub-Variation

RNMA 3rd Variation – Pricing, Serial Number Ranges

RNMA 3rd Variation – FAQ

 

RNMA 4th Variation – Key Features

RNMA 4th Variation 1st Sub-Variation

RNMA 4th Variation 2nd Sub-Variation

RNMA 4th Variation 3rd Sub-Variation

RNMA 4th Variation – Pricing, Serial Number Ranges

 

RNMA 5th Variation – Key Features

RNMA 5th Variation 1st Sub-Variation

RNMA 5th Variation 2nd Sub-Variation

RNMA 5th Variation – Pricing, Serial Number Ranges

 

RNMA 6th Variation – Key Features

RNMA 6th Variation 1st Sub-Variation

RNMA 6th Variation 2nd Sub-Variation

RNMA 6th Variation 3rd Sub-Variation

RNMA 6th Variation – Pricing, Serial Number Ranges

RNMA 6th Variation – FAQ

 

RNMA 7th Variation – Key Features

RNMA 7th Variation – Serial Number Ranges

RNMA 7th Variation – Pending Issues

 

3.2.1

Common Characteristics of the Regular New Model Armies (RNMAs)

 

The findings on these Regular New Model Armies (RNMAs) are based on recent reviews and new evaluations of the transatlantic research program executed by Panhandle Paden in Lubbock, Texas and I in Hofheim, Germany. Available for the task were 1,393 regular production specimens recorded in the survey of this Centaure & FROCS website https://wp.1960nma.org/ per August 2022.

 

Barrel

8″

Frame

3-screw, recoil shield with notches for the attachment of a shoulder stock

Co. of origin mark

usually MADE IN BELGIUM on butt

S/N prefix

none

Comments

The Centaure model most often observed. Some variants were exclusively available in the U.S.A. or Europe.

 

Seven (7) variations and their many, many sub-variations of this 1st Model or Regular New Model Army (RNMA) have been discovered and documented since 2007 when this project was started. The variants are described and pictured below in some detail. Roughly 81 % of the total Centaure production accrued over the five (5) basic models are made up of RNMAs.

No rules without exceptions: During the early 1960s Centennial Arms Corp. of Chicago’s suburb Lincolnwood, IL. especially ordered a number of RNMAs (and Civilians and Cavalries as well – check subject chapters 3.3 and 3.4 for details) right off the production floor „in the white“ without any marks, markings and proof tests for their Colterization projects.

Until sometime in 1970 backstraps were welded together from 2-parts with the buttstrap bent-over. We call this the 1st version or early backstrap. They were made with and without a toe on the butt. Most RNMAs carry the country-of-origin mark MADE IN BELGIUM on the buttstrap. The mark was placed there by a manual operation.

A few RNMAs recorded are fitted with buttstraps without the country-of-origin mark. Why? Please, consider these explanations:

1) Human factor, the technician in charge at F.A.U.L. on the production floor simply forgot to stamp the buttstrap because it was one of these Mondays,

2) More often these were special order New Model Armies for sale within Belgium. Included are some Centaures sold at the U.S. PX in Brussels. These pistols came eventually into their respective home countries with their (NATO) owners like to France, Germany, Great Britain, the Netherlands, Spain, the U.S.A. etc.,

3) Or they were special order pistols for an external engraving task.

From some time in 1970 the 2nd version backstraps was manufactured as 1-piece casts. The country-of-origin mark of these RNMAs was an integrated element of the cast.

 

3.2.1.1

RNMA 1st Variation – Key Features

 

Cylinder

rebated, plain

Finish

„traditional“ blued/color case hardened (b cch)

Comments

Produced from 1959 to 1973.

 

The 1st variation of the RNMAs was the first variant produced from 1959. With its rebated, plain cylinder and traditional finish this is classic Centaure. More importantly it is The Mother of All New Model Armies (NMAs).

The three (3) sub-variations of the RNMA 1st variation combined account for ca. 40 % of all Centaures produced.

 

3.2.1.1.1

RNMA 1st Variation 1st Sub-Variation

 

Notch on butt

yes

Logo

none

Barrel marking

„1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“

Chambers

large

Arbor

1st version

Hammer spur

1st and 2nd version

Comments

Produced between 1959 and 1961. Few very early ones are model guns stamped with Ms instead of visible serial numbers, see chapter 3.1.2.

This sub-version was imported to and sold in the U.S.A. only.

 

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3.2.1.1.1_1 #87 typical specimen of RNMA 1st variation 1st sub-variation made in 1959 for the official U.S. launch, discovered in January 2010 in the preowned drawer of a gun shop in Las Vegas, NV.: Note „as new condition“, no centaur logo on forward left side of frame,1st version hammer spur, oiled grips

 

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3.2.1.1.1_2 Left side view of #313 another early production RNMA from 1960: Discovered in the U.S.A. in January 2020, no logo, original carton

 

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3.2.1.1.1_3 Right side view of RNMA #313: Note brilliantly polished traditional finish, varnished grips and the historically correct low-profile front sight like the 19th century Colt 1860s

 

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3.2.1.1.1_4 Butt strap of RNMA 1st variation 1st sub-variation #128: Note toe on butt, country-of-origin mark MADE IN BELGIUM between screw head and toe

 

3.2.1.1.2

RNMA 1st Variation 2nd Sub-Variation

 

Notch on butt

yes

Logo

rampant (early) or walking centaur (intermediate and late production)

Barrel markings

„1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“

„1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“ CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK

CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK „1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“

Chambers

in line with production period large (early), mide-size (intermediate), small (late)

Arbor

in line with production period all four (4) versions (early to late) are found

Hammer spur

in line with production period all four (4) versions (early to late) are found

Comments

Produced between 1961 and 1973. Sold on both sides of the Atlantic.

 

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3.2.1.1.2_1 Typical specimen of early production RNMA 1st variation 2nd sub-variation #2851 from 1963: Note early low-profile front sight, rampant centaur logo, 3rd version hammer spur

 

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3.2.1.1.2_2 Typical specimen of late production RNMA 1st variation 2nd sub-variation #10012 from 1970: Note high-profile front sight, walking centaur logo, 4th version hammer spur

 

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3.2.1.1.2_3 Butt strap of RNMA #10422: Note country-of-origin mark MADE IN BELGIUM, upside down stamped 2-line German importer mark of B. HARLOS RIEDEN on left side of toe

 

3.2.1.1.3

RNMA 1st Variation 3rd Sub-Variation

 

Notch on butt

no

Logo

walking centaur (intermediate and late production)

Barrel markings

„1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“ CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK

CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK „1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“

Chambers

in line with production period mide-size (intermediate) and small (late)

Arbor

in line with production period 2nd, 3rd and 4th versions

Hammer spur

3rd version

Comments

Produced between 1966 and 1970, available on both sides of the Big Pond.

 

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3.2.1.1.3_1 Typical specimen of 1969 production RNMA 1st variation 3rd sub-variation #8706: Note medium-high profile front sight, 3rd version hammer spur

 

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3.2.1.1.3_2 Close-up of RNMA #8706: Barrel marking reads „1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“ CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK

 

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3.2.1.1.3_3 Close-up of RNMA #8706: Walking centaur logo on forward left side of frame

 

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3.2.1.1.3_4 Butt strap of RNMA #8706 without toe

 

3.2.1.1.4

RNMA 1st Variation – Extra Cylinders

 

Back then U.S. shooters could purchase extra cylinders for their 1st variation RNMA at U.S. $ 14.95 from Centennial Arms Corp. of Lincolnwood, IL., suburb of Chicago. Their choice was either the one engraved with the Centaure proprietary naval scene (RNMA 2nd variation) or the one with the Colt/Ormsby-style naval scene as installed in the RNMAs 3rd variation.

In Great Britain during the 2nd half of the 1960s and early 1970s the Centennial Arms Corp. sole dealer J Roberts & Son of London would let you have extra cylinders engraved with either the Centaure proprietary naval engagement scene or the U.S. engraved one in Colt/Ormsby-style at ₤ 5.

If you were looking in Germany for an extra the cylinder during the early 1970s you had more options. You could select one with the Centaure proprietary naval scene. Every other cylinder style like fluted could be ordered available for other variations of the RNMAs. You were to order the cylinder either through your dealer, gunsmith or directly from F.A.U.L.

Incidentally, extra cylinders with the proprietary naval scene were numbered in a separate block, i.e. they were not matching the pistol for which they were ordered. The other cylinders came unnumbered on their breech side. Usually, the smith would stamp the last digits of the Centaure’s serial number to which the extra was to be mated on the extra cylinder.

 

3.2.1.1.5

RNMA 1st Variation – Pricing, Serial Number Ranges

 

If you were shopping for a Regular New Model Army 1st variation in the early 1960s in the U.S.A. main Centaure dealer Centennial Arms Corp. of Lincolnwood quoted U.S. $ 99.95 on their official price list. But they were great on special offers, see below ads from 1961 and 1963.

 

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3.2.1.1.5_1 Centennial Arms pricing in 1961: RNMA 1st variation U.S. $ 89.95, extra cylinder with battle scene (must have been Centennial proprietary one) U.S. $ 14.95

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3.2.1.1.5_2 Centennial Arms Corp. special of August 1963: RNMA 1st variation plus free bullet mould plus free powder flask at U.S. $ 79.97

 

10 years later in 1972 Centennial Arms Corp. had officially dropped their prices to U.S. $ 89.95 in their attempt to fight-off Italian competitors buying their way into the market.

 

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3.2.1.1.5_3 Centennial Arms Corp. Parts List of 1960s

 

During the second half of the 1960s and the early 1970s J. Roberts and Son in London, Great Britain was sole agent of Centennial Arms Corp. They offered the RNMA 1st variation at ₤ 32.

 

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3.2.1.1.5_4 Bärbel Harlos ad from ca. 1972: Price for the RNMA 1st variation was DEM 337.50 (top pistol)

 

In Germany during the early 1970s dealer and importer Bärbel Harlos of Schwäbisch Hall would ask DEutsch Mark 337,50 for RNMAs 1st variation with medallions in the grip (first from top).

 

RNMA 1st Variation

Lowest

Serial Number

Year

Highest

Serial Number

Year

Total

%

1st Sub-Variation

1

1959

1141

1961

1,095

17.0

2nd Sub-Variation

843

1960

14270

1973

3,0421)

47.1

3rd Sub-Variation

5376

1966

10628

1970

2,2771)

35.2

MSRs

6464 (88484)

1967

13709 (51971)

1973

25

0.4

„Colterized“

935

1961

17568

1963

51)

< 0.1

„Others“

PPO2)

 

PPO2)

 

10

0.2

Total

 

6,454

100.0

1)       Includes. custom engraved RNMAs 1st variation

2)      PPO = pictorial proof only

 

Back then your friendly French or German gun dealer could get you this RNMA 1st variation 2nd sub-variation from around 1971/72 with optional silvery Centaure logo medallions inlaid into the grip at no extra cost.

 

3.2.1.1.6

RNMA 1st Variation – FAQ

Q: “If the Centaures were introduced to provide U.S. reenactors and shooters with a Colt 1860 Army pattern pistol to commemorate the Civil War from 1961, and these RNMAs 1st variation were the first variants of the line available why are their cylinders not featuring the traditional roll engraved naval engagement scene of Colt Armies and Navies from the Civil War and Post Civil War era?”

A: No personal accounts are available from William B. Edwards, Sig Shore in the U.S.A. or the Hanquet family in Belgium or else explaining this decision.

IMHO it is a fair guesstimate that Bill Edwards and Sig Shore wanted to have their Belgian Armies ready for sale in the USA in due time before the centennial of the Civil War festivities in 1961. They managed this with their launch campaign from 1960.

We can disregard thoughts that the two (2) Edwards model guns which the RNMAs 1st variation replicate, were so worn out that no more cylinder scene was detectable for copying. In his capacity as the Civil War historian and Colt collector Edwards was fully aware of the cylinder engravings of originals. But it takes time to having a die made for this particular task and organizing production to include the actual engraving. Tight production or shipment schedules at F.A.U.L. to meet the due dates before the projected U.S. launch date in 1960 as a cause for the lack of this feature sound like a viable concern, too.

Consider this thought: William B. Edwards was the “driver” of the Centaure project during the late 1950s/early 1960s among his many other projects. He must have been somewhat biased regarding his brainchild Centaure. As a respected Civil War historian and Colt collector in the U.S.A. he realized that „his“ Belgian Colts were sold through „his“ company Centennial Arms Corporation to U.S. shooters, reenactors but also to Colt collectors. To these latter U.S. initiates, he was the one to be blamed if Centaure parts were discovered in cases of fakery of original Colt Armies. That was a serious issue.

Therefore, he had F.A.U.L. built the Centaures with subtle differences to the Civil War Colt 1860 Armies. The advanced Colt students will notice this immediately, like the “Centaure step”, the less pronounced “S” curve of the barrel lug, the shallow rifling of .446 caliber, or the backstrap being welded from 2 bend-over parts, whereas Colt used a 1-part forged backstrap in the 19th century. Through this approach Edwards hoped to prevent situations where Centaures were getting connected to easy fakery of the real thing, by the powerful Colt Collectors‘ Associations.

There might have been other considerations as well. During the early phases of the Centaure project the prime objective was to provide reenactors and shooters with a high quality, functional and rugged, no-nonsense C&B revolver of Colt 1860 pattern at a decent price. The objective was a 100 % historically correct display piece. This could be another explanation for the plain cylinder as opposed to one with a Colt/Ormsby-style naval scene roll-engraved.

Today we know Edwards’s concerns regarding fakery were unfounded. Interesting enough, the Gregorelli & Uberti (G.U.) made Colt 1851 Navy pattern from the 1959/60 production period have no cylinder engraving either. To bring this aspect into perspective it should be remembered that Edwards was the one responsible for that Italian project as well.

 

3.2.1.2

RNMA 2nd Variation – Key Features

 

Cylinder

Centaure proprietary naval engagement scene similar to the Colt/Ormsby-type but with less background details

Cylinder marking

NEW MODEL 44 between the scene’s ends

Cylinder legend

none on regular production RNMAs

Finish

„traditional“ blued/color case hardened (b cch)

 

The first RNMA 2nd variation was part of the first batch of Regular New Model Armies (RNMAs) produced in 1959 as model gun #M5 already, see chapter 3.1 for details. However, full size production of this variant commenced in 1962 only.

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3.2.1.2_1 Right sight view of RNMA #1833 displayed on the U.S. flag with accessories and Slim Jim holster

 

The stylized scene of a naval engagement on the cylinders of these RNMAs 2nd variation, the Civilian Models, a few 1st variation Cavalry Models or Pocket Armies resembles the roll-engraving of the cylinders of Colt 1851 and 1861 Navies, the 1860 Army and the 1871/72 Open Top with less background details, however. Hence, collectors call it Centaure proprietary naval scene today.

Why the Belgians shied away from copying the Ormsby naval scene found on the Colts like the Italian replica makers did is open for speculations. Our thoughts regarding this subject are spelled out in above para titled 3.2.1.1.6 RNMA 1st Variation – FAQ.

 

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3.2.1.2_2 Close-up of cylinder scene of RNMA 2nd variation 1st sub-variation #2722: Note cylinder is roll-engraved with Centaure proprietary naval scene, NEW MODEL 44 marking between the scene’s ends

 

3.2.1.2.1

RNMA 2nd Variation 1st Sub-Variation

 

Notch on butt

yes

Logo

rampant centaure

Barrel markings

„1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“

„1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“ CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK

„1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“ CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK CHICAGO U.S.A.

CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK „1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“

Chambers

in line with production period large (early) and mid-size (intermediate)

Arbor

in line with production period 1st and 2nd versions are found

Hammer spur

in line with production period 1st,2nd and 3rd versions are found

Comments

Produced between 1959 and 1964. This variation is known from Canada, New Zealand and the U.S.A.

 

Did you notice F.A.U.L. fitted the Centaure ‘til the mid-1960s with nicer grained grips compared to the later production?

 

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3.2.1.2.1_1 „Clinical“ left side view of typical specimen of RNMA 2nd variation 1st sub-variation #1833 from 1962: Note historically correct low profile front sight and pretty grained grips

 

In 2009 a thoughtful U.S. pard felt sorry for me because I could not obtain an RNMA 2nd variation of early production here in Europe. This U.S. cowboy liberated above #1833 for me. She has a new home in a German herd now. Thanks, pard.

 

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3.2.1.2.1._2 Left side view close-up of barrel lug/cylinder/frame of RNMA #1833: Note „early style“ proof marks on barrel lug, frame and cylinder and rampant centaur logo on frame

 

RNMA 2nd variation 1st sub-variation #2535 was discovered in the used gun display of a Swiss gun shop in spring 2009. How she got to Switzerland from the U.S.A. is not known. She carries the barrel marking „1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“              CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK CHICAGO U.S.A. of 1963.

The cylinder of #2535 is stamped 353, not 535 as one would expect. This makes her a somewhat iffy RNMA 2nd variation. In addition to the usual country-of-origin stamp MADE IN BELGIUM on the butt strap there is a second such mark stamped between the top of the barrel marking and the proof marks on the left side of the barrel lug, s. picture below.

 

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3.2.1.2.1_3 RNMA #2535 second MADE IN BELGIUM mark found stamped on barrel lug

 

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3.2.1.2.1_4 Eye candy: Right side view of consecutively numbered pair of RNMAs 2nd variation 1st sub-variation #1813 and #1813 discovered in November 2019 at a U.S. auction house …

 

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3.2.1.2.1_5 Pair of RNMAs #1813 and #1814 of 1962 production with their original cartons with original serial number stickers still in place …

 

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3.2.1.2.1_6 … both share barrel marking „1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“

 

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3.2.1.2.1_7 (From left) Visible serial numbers of #1813 …and #1814 properly placed on barrel lug, frame and triggerguard …

 

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3.2.1.2.1_8 … left side view: Note 2nd version hammers and pristine condition of the pair!

 

3.2.1.2.2

RNMA 2nd Variation 2nd Sub-Variation

 

Notch on butt

yes

Logo

walking centaur

Barrel marking

„1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“ CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK

Chambers

small

Arbor

3rd version

Hammer spur

3rd version

Comments

Produced between 1969 and 1970. This variation is known from Germany and the Netherlands only.

 

Until July 2010 we were led to believe F.A.U.L. had fabricated RNMAs 2nd variation between 1961 and 1964 only without any sub-variations. That was what we had discovered until July 2010. Along comes the 1st Annual Meeting of the FROCS on July 17/18 2010 to celebrate the 50th anniversary of this first ever industrially manufactured licensed Colt 1860 Army pattern pistol after the termination of their making in Hartford of 1873.

On this occasion gunsmith, master gunsmith, conversion artist and FROCS #77 Sliding Horse presented an unusual RNMA 2nd variation #9036. Her serial number meant 1969 production. She had all matching numbers. Typically for that later production period there was no the toe on the butt which was present on all RNMAs 2nd variation known from the earlier period.

This find established that the RNMAs 2nd variation were made in 2 sub-variations, namely an “early” one with toe – now called 1st sub-variation – and a “late” one aka 2nd sub-variation without the toe on the butt. After this first introduction to this new 2nd sub-variations a few more have surfaced like #9686 pictured below.

 

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3.2.1.2.2_1 Impressions of RNMA 2nd variation 2nd sub-variation #9683: Note 3rd version hammer spur, proprietary Centaure naval scene on cylinder and mid-size front sight

 

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3.2.1.2.2_2 Grip and frame assembly of RNMA #9683: Note oiled grip, loading channel and notch in recoil shield, 3rd version arbor

 

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3.2.1.2.2_3 Left side view close-up of RNMA #9683: Note walking centaur logo, Centaure proprietary naval scene on cylinder and notch of recoil shield

 

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3.2.1.2.2_4 Butt strap of RNMA #9683 without toe for the attachment of a shoulder stock

 

Based on the inspection of the few currently documented specimens the RNMAs 2nd variation 2nd sub-variation they were assembled during 1969/70 for the European market only. No specimens have surfaced in the U.S.A.

 

3.2.1.2.3

RNMA 2nd Variation – Pricing, Serial Number Ranges

 

Back in the early 1960s Centennials Arms Corp. in the U.S.A. would have charged you with U.S. $ 89.95 for an RNMA 2nd variation 1st sub-variation.

For the later manufactured RNMA 2nd variation 2nd sub-variations no quotes from European dealers have been discovered.

J. Roberts and Son in London Great Britain, however offered RNMAs 2nd variation during the second half of the 1960s and early 1970s at ₤ 37 (but never stocked any).

 

RNMA 2nd Variation

Lowest

Serial Number

Year

Highest

Serial Number

Year

Total

%

1st Sub-Variation

M51)

1959

3989

1964

1,5522)

96.8

2nd Sub-Variation

9036

1969

9683

1970

49

3.1

“Others”

PPO3)

 

 

 

2

0.1

Total

 

1,603

100.0

1)       M marked model gun #M5 with cylinder legend ENGAGED 16 MAY 1843

2)      Includes custom engraved pistols. Some of these pieces of art are assumed to be the work of Horacio Q. Acevedo.

3)      PPO = pictorial proof only

 

3.2.1.2.4

RNMA 2nd Variation – FAQ

Q: “How come that the first decision regarding naval scenes on Centaure cylinders was reversed and RNMAs 2nd variation were introduced with this Centaure proprietary naval scene but not the one in Colt/Ormsby-style?”

A: IMHO William B. Edwards realized early after the launch of the 1st variation RNMA his fears related to fakery were unfounded, because only a few of the Colt collectors got up in arms. Most of them were rather pleased to own a reasonably priced 1860 Army pattern pistol now as a shooter made of much stronger steel than the pricey pieces of the 19th century.

Hence, Edwards’ anxiety selling a Belgian made Colt Army pattern revolver in the U.S.A. with a Centaure proprietary naval scene – see stories on the Centaure Civilian and Pocket Army Model – was unjustified. However, the management of F.A.U.L. was not prepared to approve the making of RNMAs i.e. fast moving stock fitted with cylinders engraved in Colt/Ormsby-style. For reasons unknown the Belgians only produced and delivered Centaures roll-engraved with their Centaure proprietary naval scene.

In my humble opinion, the reason for the introduction of this 2nd variation RNMA, the extra cylinders mentioned elsewhere but also the launch of a few Cavalry Models with these cylinders was $$$$$. This way the Centennial Arms management helped F.A.U.L. to sell more Centaure variants fitted with these ill-fated cylinders with the proprietary naval scenes like from the slow moving Civilian and Pocket Army Model projects.

By this move they expected to be able to bridge the gap until a die was finally available to engrave plain RNMA 1st variation cylinders at the Centennial Arms shop (!) with the Colt/Ormsby scene (see next chapter 3.3.1.3 ff on RNMAs 3rd variation).

 

 

3.2.1.3

RNMA 3rd Variation – Key Features

 

Cylinder engraving

Colt/Ormsby-style naval engagement scene

Cylinder legend

ENGAGED 16 MAY 1843

Finish

„traditional“ blued/color case hardened (b cch)

Comments

The Colt/Ormsby-style cylinder engraving was applied at the Centennial Arms Corp. shop, Lincolnfield, to plain cylinders of RNMAs 1st variation. The RNMA 3rd variations were actively marketed in the U.S.A. between 1964 and 1971.

Sig Shore hand-carried 50 Centaures to British dealer J. Roberts & Son in the mid-1960s incl. RNMAs 3rd variation as compensation for a military surplus gun deal.

RNMA 3rd variation specimens known from the European mainland are private imports.

 

Centaures with cylinder engravings of the Centaure proprietary naval engagement scene found on Civilians, a few early Cavalries, Pocket Army 1st variation and the RNMA 2nd variation described in the previous chapter were produced by F.A.U.L in Belgium. However, as proven by the somewhat limited sales volume of these pistols through Centennial Arms in the U.S.A., these models did not really meet the demand of North American reenactors and shooters.

Therefore, around 1961 Bill Edwards and Sig Shore of Centennial Arms Corp. of Chicago’s suburb Lincolnwood (CACC) hired Thomas “Tom” Haas to produce a roll cylinder die with the Colt/Ormsby naval scene as used for many Colt C&B revolver models and the 1871/72 Open Top of 19th century fame. Because the two Centennial Arms managers felt their North American buyers would prefer this type of cylinder scene on Belgian Colt 1960 Army pattern pistols. According to recent research it is a fact the die was made by Haas’s then associate Horacio Q. Acevedo.

Incidentally, Tom Haas was a noted “custom manufacturer-gun maker” of early Colt revolvers and friend with Bill Edwards and Sig Shore. Among other activities Haas made (or had made?) guns to “duplicate” originals like his famous series of Colt 1847 Walkers which demand five digits U.S.-$s at auctions today. You can read more about that subject and the role the Centaures played in the scenario in chapter 1, check the pages on the Motherload.

 

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3.2.1.3_1 Typical specimen of cylinder of RNMA 3rd variation 2nd sub-variation #5252 roll-engraved 1966 at Centennial Arms shop with Colt/Ormsby-style naval scene on cylinder

 

Early on Acevedo (on Haas’s behalf?) experimented with design modifications of the Colt/Ormsby die like with different markings between the naval scene’s ends. These experimental roll-engraved cylinders were perfect. Once the final design was agreed upon with the marking CENTENNIAL between the scene’s ends the die was heat treated for hardness, but it shrank 1/1000 in. Therefore, the engraving would not cut deep enough.

Acevedo made a new die oversized. This one shrank to proper size when it was heat treated. These activities of Centennial Arms in the U.S.A. explain why this variation of the RNMA was only available through Centennial Arms Corporation and its dealers but not officially in Continental Europe.

 

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3.2.1.3_2 Reference gun in the Shore collection RNMA 3rd variation #2 with experimental Colt/Ormsby-style cylinder scene: Note cylinder marking CENTENNIAL between the scene’s ends

 

Back in the 1960s Centennial Arms Corporation ordered the majority of their Centaures – through sister company Mars Equipment – from Fabriques d’Armes Unies de Liège (F.A.U.L.) with their cylinder blank, i.e. regular RNMAs 1st variation. Their naval scene was added at Centennial Arms’s shop in Lincolnwood, IL 60712, U.S.A.

Regular cylinder roll engraving operations of these RNMAs 1st variation turned RNMAs 3rd variation commenced in earnest around 1963 with the 2nd sub-variation. The RNMAs 3rd variation 3rd sub-variations were added in numbers in 1966.

 

3.2.1.3.1

RNMA 3rd Variation 1st Sub-Variation

 

Notch on butt

yes

Logo

rampant (early), walking centaur (intermediate and late production)

Cylinder marking

experimental CENTENNIAL or COLTS PATENT marking with serial number between the scene’s ends

Logo

None or rampant centaur

Barrel marking

„1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“

Chambers

large

Arbor

1st version

Hammer spur

1st and 2nd version

Comment

Prototype, production between 1961 and 1962.

 

Only very few surviving specimens of these RNMAs 3rd variation 1st sub-variations with experimental cylinder engravings are known. Some pistols like #2 (pictured above) or #96 in the Centaure data bank must have been originally RNMAs 1st variation reference samples in the Centennial Arms inventory. They were turned RNMAs 3rd variation in the period 1961/62 as part of the trials with the first die. Other early RNMAs 3rd variation below serial number around #1400 yet to be discovered should belong to this category, too.

#1423 below was found sold at a U.S. internet auction as early as 2006. Probably less than 10 of these prototypes were made.

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3.2.1.3.1_1 Cylinder of RNMA #1423: Note serial number between the cylinder naval scene’s ends

 

3.2.1.3.2

RNMA 3rd Variation 2nd Sub-Variation

 

Notch on butt

yes

Cylinder marking

CENTENNIAL between the naval scene’s ends

Logo

rampant (early), walking centaur (intermediate and late production)

Barrel markings

„1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“ CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK

CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK „1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“

Chambers

In line with period of production large (early), mid-size (intermediate) and small (late)

Arbor

in line with period of production all 4 versions

Hammer spur

in line with period of production2nd, 3rd and 4th versions

Comment

Produced between 1963 and 1971.

 

D:\#5252 RNMA 3V 2SV UL D\1-FIL14400.JPG

3.2.1.3.2_1 Left side view of RNMA 3rd variation 2nd sub-variation #5252 from 1966 upon arrival in Germany in 2009: Note mid-size front sight and rampant centaur logo

 

D:\#5252 RNMA 3V 2SV UL D\1-DSC_7849.jpg

3.2.1.3.2_2 „Clinical“ right side view of RNMA #5252: Note 3rd version hammer spur

 

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3.2.1.3.2_3 RNMA 3rd variation 2nd subvariation #4798 from  1965: Note toe right side of country-of-origin mark MADE IN BELGIUM

 

3.2.1.3.3

Recollections of Contemporary Witness Paul Roberts

 

Through our British pard FROCS #175 20′ Plenty on June 26 2015 we learnt about an import of ca. 50 Centaures by gunmakers J. Roberts and Son of London into Great Britain during the middle of the 1960s. This consignment comprised Civilians and RNMAs including a RNMAs 3rd variation 2nd sub-variation #4920!

After a quick check of the Centaure data bank two Civilians from 1960 and 61, six RNMAs 1st variation 2nd sub-variations of 1964 and two RNMAs 3rd variations 2nd sub-variations of 1965 production surfaced as possible New Model Armies (NMAs) of this first consignment to Britain around 1965.

Here is what 20′ Plenty found about the deal:

„I have tracked down J Roberts & Son. They have moved from London to West Chiltington, West Sussex but are still the same firm of gunmakers. You can find them at http://www.jroberts-gunmakrs.co.uk.

„I spoke this morning with Paul Roberts who is the actual person who ordered 50 Belgian Colts from Centennial Arms. He was very impressed with the quality of the pistols – he said they were much better than the Western Arms ones at the time.“

„He sold some through the shop and some went to auction“

 

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3.2.1.3.3_1 Civil War picture on the back of the leaflet drawn by John Coletta

 

„The leaflet he had made specialy as he was the sole importer in the 1960s.“

„The Civil War picture on the back of the leaflet was drawn by his cousin John Coletta founding member of Deep Purple and Whitesnake! He died in Spain about 10 years ago.“

„I do not know how many were Civilians or RNMAs.“

„Roberts was also unaware of the following these Centaures have so I sent a link to your site.“

This report implies that Centennial Arms Corp. sold Centaures in North America alright but also to their sole agent J. Roberts and Son in London, Great Britain.

 

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3.2.1.3.3_2 Cover of the J. Roberts and Son Centaure leaflet from the 1960s

 

Until June 2020 only a few Centaures are recorded for the United Kingdom in the data bank of the Centaure & FROCS website https://wp.1960nma.org/. Hence, the recollections of contemporary witness Paul Roberts add to our understanding of this phase of the Centaures’ life during the middle of the 1960s in Great Britain. Considering this import of 50 Centaures give or take a few from the U.S.A. it appears that J. Roberts and Son was a major seller of Centaure in the United Kingdom during this period.

After more inquiries here is what additional first-hand information Paul Roberts shared on July 7, 2015:

 

# Paul Roberts feels it could have been less than these 50 Centaures. Whatever the quantity they were hand-delivered by Sig Shore as a compensation for a military surplus deal of a large quantity of WWI pistols and revolvers Shore had purchased from J. Roberts and Son. Because of this probably no documents with serial numbers of the Centaures were involved.

# (From what we know today) Shore might have delivered part of the Centaures from the Centennial Arms Corp. inventory in Lincolnwood (RNMAs 3rd variation 2nd sub-variation), and possibly from the F.A.U.L. stock in Liège as well. (Civilians, RNMAs 1st variation 2nd sub-variation). According to Mr. Roberts recollections Shore arrived from Belgium.

# No other Centaure models were imported, certainly no Cavalries or Dragoons.

# Back then J. Roberts and Son were sole agents for Centennial Arms Corp. in the UK. According to Roberts it is unlikely that other U.K. dealers were involved in Centaure sales.

# Due to the requirements of a firearms certificate to purchase percussion revolvers in the UK, sales in the 1960s and 1970s were very poor. Only when center fire revolvers and semi-auto pistols were banned 10 years ago did sales of muzzle loading revolvers improve, as they can be held on a normal firearms certificate – whereas all modern caliber pistols (semi-autos) and revolvers are totally banned.

# At one time Paul Roberts owned a highly engraved, gold inlaid, ivory stocked Belgian .44 cal. Colt repro which he used to shoot (what we call factory engraved Presentation today). It was sold 15 years ago.

 

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3.2.1.3.3_3 Pages of the J. Roberts and Son leaflet: Three (3) Centaure Models are displayed on the left page (top down): Civilian, RNMA, Cavalry Model.

 

3.2.1.3.4

RNMA 3rd Variation 3rd Sub-Variation

 

Notch on butt

none

Cylinder mrking

CENTENNIAL between the naval scene’s ends

Logo

walking centaur

Barrel markings

„1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“ CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK

CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK „1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“

Chambers

In line with period of production large (early), mid-size (intermediate) and small (late)

Arbor

in line with period of production 3rd and 4th version

Hammer spur

in line with period of production 3rd and 4th version

Comment

Produced between 1966 and 1970. A few RNMAs 3rd variations 3rd sub-variations are recorded without the cylinder marking CENTENNIAL.

 

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3.2.1.3.4_1 Right side view of typical specimen RNMAs 3rd variation 3rd sub-variation #8196 from 1968: No toe on butt

 

D:\#8196 RNMA 3V 3SV DEW USA\2-Gun 115.JPG

3.2.1.3.4_2 Left side view of RNMA #8196: Note 3rd version hammer spur

 

RNMA #9176 is an „as new“ example of this 3rd variation 3rd sub-variation. She was liberated in the U.S.A. and later imported to Europe to live happily thereafter in a Centaure herd in Germany.

 

D:\#9176 RNMA 3V 3SV LV D\1-P1030160.RW2.jpg

3.2.1.3.4_3 Almost typical specimen of RNMA 3rd variation 3rd sub-variation #9176 from 1970: Note lack of toe on butt, nicely grained grip and the superb case colors of the frame ….

 

There is one feature making #9176 rarer than many others of the RNMAs 3rd variation 3rd sub-variation, check picture below.

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3.2.1.3.4_4 … Close-up of cylinder of #9176: No cylinder marking CENTENNIAL between the scene’s ends attributed to a worn-out die

 

Other RNMAs 3rd variation 3rd sub-variation without CENTENNIAL marking? A check of the Centaure data bank revealed a few solitary serial numbers as well as a cluster during the production period 1969/70 sharing this characteristic. They are #8612, #8722, #8900, #9036, between #9176 – #9240, and #9694 and #9953.

 

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3.2.1.3.4_5 Close-up of butt of RNMA #7638 from 1968: Note no MADE IN BELGIUM stamp on the butt strap, typically no toe on the butt

 

3.2.1.3.5

RNMA 3rd Variation – Pricing, Serial Number Ranges

 

Centennial Arms Corporation of Chicago, IL, U.S.A. would charge you 1962 U.S. $ 89.95 for a Centaure RNMAs 3rd variation.

According to their catalogue pictured elsewhere J. Roberts and Son in London capital of Great Britain offered the RNMA 3rd variation during the second half of the 1960s and early 1970s at ₤ 37.

 

RNMA 3rd Variation

Lowest

Serial Number

Year

Highest

Serial Number

Year

Total

%

1st Sub-Variation

2

1959

1423

1962

7

0.2

2nd Sub-Variation

2597

1963

11484

1971

1,980

50.3

3rd Sub-Variation

5485

1966

10120

1970

1,942

49.3

MSRs

8408 (18408)

1969

8408 (18408)

1969

5

0.1

„Colterized“

51511

1963

51522

1963

11)

< 0.0

“Others”

PPO2)

 

PPO2)

 

2

< 0.1

Total

 

3,937

100.0

1)       Only specimens currently known #51511

2)      PPO = Pictorial proof only

 

3.2.1.3.6

RNMA 3rd Variation – FAQ

Q: “And finally the correct Colt/Ormsby-type naval engagement scene on the cylinder? What kind of a logic is this after all?”

A: IMHO flexible response to market pressure. Starting with a few experimental pistols made during the time when the Civilian Models and RNMAs 2nd variations were still being actively promoted. When Italy’s Uberti had launched their Colt 1860 replica in April 1963 with the historically correct naval scene plus all marks and marking Centennial Arms Corp, principal U.S. dealer of the Centaures, felt it was high time to reconsider the earlier lukewarm „wait and see“ position. Consequently, they altered most of the originally plain cylinders of their RNMA 1st variation imports to 3rd variation specs by applying the Colt/Ormsby-style naval once Horacio Q Acevedo’s made subject die was available.

Shying away from the never occurring conflict with Colt collectors they had the marking CENTENNIAL engraved between the naval scene’s ends from 1963. They never dared to add the period correct patent mark PAT. SEPT. 10th 1850 nor the legend Engaged by W.L. Ormsby New York referring to Ormsby like the Italians did.

These „original“ marks and markings you will find only the on Centaures „colterized“ by Horacio Q. Acevedo. Incidentally, the correctness of the Ormsby reference on 1860 Army cylinders can be argued.

 

3.2.1.4

RNMA 4th Variation – Key Features

 

Cylinder

fully fluted

Logo

walking centaur

Finish

„traditional“ blue/color case hardened (b cch)

Chambers

small

Comment

Rare RNMA variant, recorded pistols were found in Europe only.

 

Many collectors this scribe included consider this RNMA 4th variation variant the most gracious of them all! Because her slim lines are further accentuated by the fluted cylinder.

 

3.2.1.4.1

RNMA 4th Variation 1st Sub-variation

 

Notch on butt

none

Barrel marking

„1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“ CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK

Arbor

3rd version

Hammer spur

3rd version

Comment

Prototype production in 1967, very rare, two specimens currently recorded from Germany.

 

In April 2013 the first specimen of this early RNMA 4th variation 1st sub-variation #6382 pictured below was offered in Germany at Egun’s internet auction house by the heirs of the first owner. The deal included an extra F.A.U.L. made cylinder of the rebated, plain kind.

 

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3.2.1.4.1_1 First RNMA 4th variation 1st sub-variation #6382 discovered of 1967 production: Note 3rd version hammer spur historically correct low front sight and later purchased rebated plain extra cylinder

 

All numbers of #6382 were matching. Typically, there was no toe on the butt. She features the period Belgian factory and proof house markings of 1967. A 3rd version arbor is installed. The first owner had worked the grip, frame, screw heads and hammer possibly to achieve a more „used“ or „antique“ impression, see pictures.

 

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3.2.1.4.1_2 Close-up of left side of RNMA #6382: Note rampant centaur logo and case colour finish of frame, hammer and screw heads almost removed

 

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3.2.1.4.1_3 Close-up of frame assembly of RNMA #6382, barrel and cylinder pulled: Note 3rd version arbor

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3.2.1.4.1_4 Close-up of buttstrap of RNMA #6382: Note custom varnished grip, no toe

 

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3.2.1.4.1_5 Original fluted cylinder of RNMA #6382: Note 382 on breech side are last three digits of serial number

 

The heirs told me the first owner acquired the second rebated plain cylinder sometime after the original purchase of the revolver directly from F.A.U.L. The extra cylinder carries the Liège proof mark but was not numbered on the breech side at the factory. His gunsmith stamped 6382 on the breech-side in anti-clockwise sequence of the digits, using a different type of fonts compared to the F.A.U.L. type, too, see picture below.

 

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3.2.1.4.1_6 Extra cylinder of RNMA #6382: Came from the factory proof tested without number on breech side; the gunsmith stamped 6382 anti-clockwise, note different font used

 

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3.2.1.4.1._7 Another RNMA 4th variation 1st sub-variation #6392 also from 1967: This is the 2nd such variant currently documented

 

3.2.1.4.2

RNMA 4th Variation 2nd Sub-variation

 

Notch on butt

yes

Barrel markings

„1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“ CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK

CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK “1960 NEW MODEL ARMY”

Arbor

3rd and 4th version

Hammer spur

3rd and 4th version

Comments

Production in 1967 and 1972. Rare RNMA variant, we currently know pistols from France and Germany only.

 

The lowest serial number of an RNMA 4th variation 2nd sub-variation is #6374 (!) from 1967 pictured below. That is lower, or the pistol is older (!) rather, than the serial numbers of the two prototype RNMAs 4th variation 1st sub-variation recorded. We believe these three are all from the prototype/pre-production series of the RNMA 4th variation project.

 

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3.2.1.4.2_1 Right side view of RNMA 4th variation 2nd sub-variation #6374 from 1967: Currently the lowest serial number documented of an RNMA 4th variation

 

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3.2.1.4.2_2 Left side view of RNMA #6374: N0te period low profile front sight and 3rd version hammer spur

 

A few small size batches of the RNMAs 4th variations 2nd sub-variations were regularly produced between 1971 and 1972 only. The lowest serial number from 1971 currently recorded is #11783 reported from France.

 

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3.2.1.4.2_3 Right side view of RNMA #12043 from 1972: Note custom grip medallion and 4th version hammer spur

 

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3.2.1.4.2_4 Left side view of RNMA #12043: Note intermediate size front sight

 

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3.2.1.4.2_5 Typical specimen of 1-piece cast back strap of RNMA 4th variation 2nd sub-variation #12404 from 1972: Note complete serial number inside left side of butt strap, toe on butt, two line mark of German importer B.HARLOS RIEDEN stamped left of toe

 

On the cylinders of RNMAs 4th variation 2nd sub-variation „in the Centaure bank“, namely  #12036, #12038, #12040, #12043, #12046 and #12050 digits of the serial numbers were found applied „abnormally“. Because these cylinders are stamped with 836, 838, 840, 843, 846 and 850 on the breech side, respectively, i.e. an 8 is used instead of a 0. No explanation can be offered for this abnormality at this stage. All other RNMAs 4th variation recorded have their cylinders stamped with the last 2 or 3 digits of the serial number in the regular manner.

 

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3.2.1.4.2_6 Cylinder of RNMA #12046: Note digits 846 stamped on breech side

 

Please, take notice:

RNMA 4th variation 2nd sub-variation variants with serial numbers below #11700 should be inspected with great care. Their fluted cylinders might be Italian replacements fitted to RNMAs 1st variation 2nd sub-variation! Such fakes were reported from Germany and the U.S.A.

 

3.2.1.4.3

RNMA 4th Variation 3rd Sub-variation

 

Notch on butt

yes

Barrel marking

CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK “1960 NEW MODEL ARMY”

Arbor

3rd version

Hammer spur

4th version

Comments

Production in 1972. Barrel marking on the 8″ barrels only. Very rare combo of RNMA with matching 5,5″ extra barrel. Currently one set recorded from Germany only.

 

This first and only set was offered for auction at German Egun in October of 2014.

 

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3.2.1.4.3_1 RNMA 4th variation 3rd sub-variation #12472 of 1972 with matching 5,5″ extra barrel: Note loading lever of 5,5” barrel „in the white“ whereas a case colored one is fitted to 8″ one

 

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3.2.1.4.3_2 Barrel marking reads CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK “1960 NEW MODEL ARMY” on 8″ barrel fitted to RNMA #12472

 

Muzzles of both barrels are crowned.

 

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3.2.1.4.3_3 Close-up of muzzle of 5,5″ barrel fitted to RNMA #12472: Note crowned muzzle and „in the white“ finish of loading lever which one would have expected to be case colored

 

The diameter of the 5.5″ barrel measured at the muzzle is 12.8 mm/0.5″, the 8″ barrel measured in the same position accounts for 13.0 mm/0.51″. The average diameter of four (4) other Marshal models – 5,5″ barrels“ – available at the time were measured at 12,4 mm/0.49″, i.e. less than the short extra barrel of the combo.

 

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3.2.1.4.3_4 Hey, Good Looking: RNMA 4th variation 3rd sub-variation #12472 „Marshal“ with 5,5″ barrel installed

 

3.2.1.4.4

RNMA 4th Variation – Pricing, Serial Number ranges

 

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3.2.1.4.4_1 Ad of Bärbel Harlos, German Centaure importer and dealer from the 1972 period: Note RNMA 4th variation 2nd sub-variation with Centaure medallion in grip second from top on the left priced at DEutsch Mark 337.50

 

Dealer Bärbel Harlos in Germany charged DEM 337.50 in 1972 for all RNMAs with medallions fitted to the grip see second pistol from top on the left on above flyer.

The combo of RNMA 4th variation 3rd sub-variation could be had at DEM 448.00.

 

RNMA 4th Variation

Lowest

Serial Number

Year

Highest

Serial Number

Year

Total

%

1st Sub-Variation

6382

1967

6392

1967

9

6.4

2nd Sub-Variation

6374

1967

12958

1972

125

89.3

3rd Sub-Variation

12472

1972

12472

1972

4

2.9

“Others”

PPO1)

 

PPO1)

 

2

1.4

Total

 

140

100.0

1) Pictorial proof only! 

 

3.2.1.5

RNMA 5th Variation – Key Features

 

Cylinder  

Rebated. plain

Finish

High gloss polish/“in the white“ aka stainless look

 

In this RNMA variant the barrel, loading lever assembly, frame, cylinder, hammer and backstrap of high gloss polished steel are combined with the typical brass triggerguard and front sight. The pistol is held together by blued screws (except loading lever screw), wedge, loading lever latch and nipples offering a package of brightness, color and contrast.

 

3.2.1.5.1

RNMA 5th Variation 1st Sub-Variation

 

Notch on butt

none

Logo

usually none

Barrel marking

usually none

Co. of origin mark

usually none

Arbor

3rd version

Chambers

mid-size, small

Hammer spur

3rd version

Comment

Production between 1967 and 1970. Few specimens only are recorded with barrel marking, logos and/or backstraps stamped MADE IN BELGIUM. So far, discovered in France, Germany, Switzerland and the U.S.A.

 

Why did F.A.U.L. market this RNMAs 5th variation 1st sub-variation in 1967 in the first place? Three theories are discussed:

# To maintain competitiveness F.A.U.L. felt the need to extend the line of Centaures with a new finish. The introduction of a „white“ finish RNMA was considered an attractive option. At that time the company was not ready yet to have a go at s stainless steel alloy nor did they wish to use nickel or chromium plating.

# Therefore, a limited acceptance and durability test of a few RNMAs with 1st variation contour but in this new stainless look was started (see next chapter 3.2.1.6 on RNMAs 6th variation on that subject, too).

# When these stainless look pistols were met with approval of market and maker, F.A.U.L. eventually fabricated 60 % of this new RNMA line on special-order for outside custom engraving jobs like from well-known Rothenburger Waffeneck of Rothenburg o.d.T. in Germany.

According to a communication from Nadine Hanquet, last president of F.A.U.L., from 2013 the company had plans from as early as 1967/68 to provide a custom engraving service.

 

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3.2.1.5.1_1 Super rare find in the U.S.A. in February of 2020: This consecutively numbered pair of RNMAs 5th variation 1st sub-variation #6753 and #6754 of 1967 production is typical for this variant; no logo, hammers with 3rd version spurs installed

 

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3.2.1.5.1_2 Visible Serial numbers of RNMAs #6754 and #6753

 

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3.2.1.5.1_3 Top of the barrel view of RNMA #6759: No barrel marking

 

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3.2.1.5.1_4 No toe on butt but country-of-origin mark on RNMA #6759

 

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3.2.1.5.1_5 Eye candy impressions of custom engraved RNMA #8648 from 1969: right side view …

 

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3.2.1.6.1_6 … left side close-up of barrel lug, frame and cylinder of RNMA #8648: Note details of engraving, fire blued screw heads, 3rd version hammer spur and varnished grip …

 

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3.2.1.5.1_7 … right side close-up of engraving of backstrap, hammer, recoil shield, frame and cylinder of RNMA #8648

 

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3.2.1.5.1_8 … close-up of muzzle engraving of RNMA #8648: Note modified front sight

 

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3.2.1.5.1_9 No toe, no MADE IN BELGIUM on buttstrap of RNMA #8990 from 1969

 

3.2.1.5.2

RNMA 5th Variation 2nd Sub-Variation

 

Notch on butt

yes

Logo

walking centaur (non on factory engraved variants)

Barrel marking

CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK 1960 NEW MODEL ARMY(none on factory engraved variants)

Co. of origin mark

yes (none on factory engraved variants)

Arbor

3rd and 4th version

Chambers

small

Hammer spur

4th version

Comment

Production from 1970 to 1973. Regular production specimens are found with backstraps blank or stamped MADE IN BELGIUM. Discovered in Europe, Canada  and the U.S.A.

 

Between 1970 and 1973 a couple of small size production runs of the RNMAs 5th variation 2nd sub-variation have been made. Whereas around 60% (64 specimens) of the RNMAs of the 5th variation 1st sub-variation accounted for custom engraved pistols that figure dropped to ca. 20 % (26 specimens) of the regular production output of RNMAs 5th variation 2nd sub-variations. However, 291 (!) specimens were of the factory engraved variety in De Luxe, Super De Luxe and Presentation style. For a more in depths discussion on factory engraved Centaures check the chapter titled Pieces of Art from Liège.

RNMA 5th variation 2nd sub-variation #11867 below was (re-) discovered in a German gun shop in May 2009. According to the shop owner’s records this pistol was received from F.A.U.L for a custom engraving project in 1972 already together with a shipment of other Centaures. Back then the owner stowed her away in a box in the back of his warehouse together with an original Colt 1860 Army and two Uberti percussion revolvers of 1972 production but forgot all about this consignment.

In accordance with FROCS SOPs she was liberated on the spot.

 

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3.2.1.5.2_1 Left side view of RNMA 5th variation 2nd sub-variation #11867 of 1971 production

 

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3.2.1.5.2_2 Right side view of RNMA #11867: Note 4th version hammer spur and mid-size front sight

 

With her blued screw heads (except for the lever screw), nipples and wedge #11867 is another pleasant example of a „plain“ RNMAs 5th variation 2nd sub-variations. The last 3 digits of the serial number are embossed on the breech side of the cylinder.

 

3.2.1.5.3

RNMA 5th Variation – Pricing, Serial Number ranges

 

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3.2.1.5.3_1 Bärbel Harlos flyer from 1972: The Centaure at the bottom looks like an RNMA factory engraved in De Luxe style but was probably embellished by German dealer and custom engraver Rothemburger Waffeneck resembling the F.A.U.L. De Luxe style

 

In 1972 German importer and dealer Bärbel Harlos promoted the introduction of the plain Jane RNMA 5th variation 2nd sub-variation with Centaure medallion at DEutsch Mark 337.50!

The custom engraved variant at the bottom of above flyer was embellished by the same artist who also engraved eye candy #8684 above. The price was DEM 658.00 back then.

 

RNMA 5th Variation

Lowest

Serial Number

Year

Highest

Serial Number

Year

Total

%

1st Sub-Variation

6748

1967

9872

1970

1251)

21.8

2nd Sub-Variation

10137

1970

13966

1973

1581)

27.5

Subtotal regular Production

 

 

 

 

283

49.3

De Luxe factory engraved

11189

1971

14003

1973

266

46.3

Super De Luxe factory engraved

pictorial proof only

1971

13446

1972

5

0.9

Presentation factory engraved

11842

1971

14000

1973

20

3.5

Subtotal factory engraved

 

 

 

 

291

50.7

Total

 

574

100.0

1)      Includes some 100 custom engraved Centaures between the 283 specimens of the two sub-variations

 

3.2.1.6

RNMA 6th Variation – Key Features

 

Cylinder

fully fluted

Logo

walking centaur

Finish

high gloss polish/“in the white“ aka stainless look

Comment

Surface is heat treated as rust protection. Found in Europe only.

 

This is the second line of Regular New Model Armies (RNMAs) with the new stainless look finish. In contrast to the RNMAs 5th variation with rebated plain cylinders these variants were fitted with fluted ones at F.A.U.L. Judged by the serial numbers recorded the production of these two RNMA variants began at about the same time in 1967.

The high gloss polished surface was heat treated as a rust protection.

This RNMA 6th variation, the „brother“ of the traditionally finished RNMA 4th variation but with stainless look, was also produced in three (3) sub-variations.

 

3.2.1.6.1

RNMA 6th Variation 1st sub-variation

 

Notch on butt

none

Barrel markings

1960 NEW MODEL ARMY                      CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK

CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK  1960 NEW MODEL ARMY

Arbor

3rd version

Chambers

mid-size

Hammer spur

3rd version

Comment

Production in 1967 only. Very rare, two specimens currently recorded from Germany.

 

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3.2.1.6.1_1 RNMA 6th variation 1st sub-variation #6377 of 1967 production, discovered at a German gun show in March 2012

 

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3.2.1.6.1_2 Right side view of RNMA #6377: Note custom polished screw tips, wedge and loading lever latch, 3rd version hammer spur and coin custom inlaid in right grip panel

 

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3.2.1.6.1_3 Visible serial numbers of RNMA #6377 on barrel lug, frame and triggerguard: Note walking centaur logo in the usual location

 

D:\#6377 RNMA 6V 1SV WP D\5-P1040945.JPG3.2.1.6.1_4 Barrel marking of RNMA #6377 reads 1960 NEW MODEL ARMY  CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK

 

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3.2.1.6.1_5 Close-up of buttstrap of RNMA #6377: Note MADE IN BELGIUM mark, no toe

 

3.2.1.6.2

RNMA 6th Variation 2nd sub-variation

 

Notch on butt

yes

Barrel markings

“1960 NEW MODEL ARMY”          CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK

CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK “1960 NEW MODEL ARMY”

“1960 NEW MODEL ARMY”

Arbor

3rd and 4th version version

Chambers

small

Hammer spur

4th version

Comment

Production between 1971 and 1973. Regularly found in Europe.

 

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3.2.1.6.2_1 Right side view of typical RNMA 6th variation 2nd sub-variation #12295 from 1972: Note 4th version hammer spur and blued loading lever latch, buttstrap with toe

 

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3.2.1.6.2_2 Left side view of RNMA #12295; Note walking centaur logo, blued screw heads (except for the lever screw always „in the white“), nipples and wedge

 

Incidentally, some of the allegedly “sold in Europe only” Centaure variants could be had in the U.S.A., too. During November of 2012 some information on RNMA 6th variation 2nd sub-variation #12242 was received from the U.S.A. According to her previous owner she was obtained during the 1970s together with consecutively numbered Marshal 1st variation 2nd sub-variation #12243 from a sales representative in California. This agent special-ordered these two Centaure models from Belgium.

 

3.2.1.6.3

RNMA 6th Variation 3rd sub-variation

 

Notch on butt

yes

Barrel markings

CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK “1960 NEW MODEL ARMY”

“1960 NEW MODEL ARMY”

Arbor

3rd version

Hammer spur

4th version

Comments

Production in 1972, barrel marking on the 8″ barrel only. Very rare combo of RNMA with matching 5,5″ extra barrel. Three sets are recorded from Germany.

 

The serial numbers of the currently known sets are #13106 and #13187 pictured below, and #13604. Of course, the two (2) barrels of a combo have matching serial numbers! The 8″ barrels of #13106 and #13187 share the barrel marking CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK              “1960 NEW MODEL ARMYbut it reads “1960 NEW MODEL ARMY” on the RNMA length barrel of #13604.

 

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3.2.1.6.3_1 RNMA 6th variation 3rd sub-variation #13106 from 1972: Note 5,5″ barrel fitted to frame

 

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3.2.1.6.3_2 RNMA #13187: Note RNMA barrel fixed to frame

 

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3.2.1.6.3_3 RNMA #13187: Note matching serial numbers of the two barrels

 

3.2.1.6.4

RNMA 6th Variation – Pricing, Serial Number Ranges

 

The RNMA 6th variation 2nd sub-variation could be had from Germany’s importer and dealer Bärbel Harlos with or without these two (2) silvery Centaure logo medallions inlaid into the grip at a price of DEutsch Mark 337.30.

Back in 1973 German dealer Bärbel Harlos published this interesting offer for the RNMA 6th variation 3rd sub-variation set:

“Get this variant with a matching extra 5,5” barrel at DEM 448.00!”.

 

RNMA 6th Variation

Lowest

Serial Number

Year

Highest

Serial Number

Year

Total

%

1st Sub-Variation

6377

1967

6783

1967

10

2.2

2nd Sub-Variation

11537

1971

14252

1973

424

93.4

3rd Sub-Variation

13106

1972

13604

1973

20

4.4

Total

 

454

100.0

 

3.2.1.6.5

RNMA 6th Variation – FAQ

Q: “Rational for the introduction of Regular New Model Army variants without toe on butt?”

A: IMHO F.A.U.L. must have been carrying significant inventories of 2-part welded and bend-over backstraps without toes on the butt when the anticipated sales volume of regular production Civilian Models and the special-order Pocket Armies did not materialize as expected.

To correct this situation in line with good housekeeping practices these parts were randomly used in the assembly of all (!) RNMA production until the stock were exhausted sometime in 1970.

 

3.2.1.7

RNMA 7th Variation – Key Features

 

Steel alloy

high gloss polish/“in the white“ stainless steel

Notch on butt

yes

Logo

walking centaur

Barrel markings

CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK „1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“

Cylinder

fully fluted

Chambers

small

Arbor

3rd and 4th

Hammer spur

4th version

Comments

F.A.U.L. wrote gun history in 1972 with the making of this first ever stainless steel percussion revolver.

Produced in 1972 only. Variants were discovered in Germany, Switzerland and the U.S.A.

 

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3.2.1.7_1 Impressions of RNMA 7th variation #12306 of 1972 production liberated in July 2009…

 

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3.2.1.7_2 … RNMA #12306 came in the original HARLOS carton …

 

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3.2.1.7_3 … with serial number sticker …

 

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3.2.1.7_4 … Note interior of RNMA #12306 carton: Note pistol is „protected“ by partitions…

 

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3.2.1.7_5 … left side view of RNMA #12306: Note proof marks on barrel lug and frame, walking centaur logo and 4th version hammer spur …

 

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3.2.1.7_6 … visible serial numbers #12306 on barrel lug, frame and triggerguard …

 

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3.2.1.7_7 … period barrel marking CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK „1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“of RNMA #12306

 

I had the opportunity to inspect, or have inspected, the RNMAs 7th variation #12300, #12301, #12305, #12306 and #12307 as well as #12710 and #12713. Two unexpected findings were noted: The pistols with the #123XX serial numbers – digit 3 in the third position – had all matching numbers except for the 3 digits on the breech-side of the cylinders: The cylinders were not numbered 300, 301, 305, 306 or 307 but 100, 101, 105, 106 and 107! Is this 1 instead of 3 some early internal code at F.A.U.L. for “stainless steel”?

Regarding the two pistols with the #127XX serial numbers– digit 7 in the third position – showed all matching numbers as well but their cylinders were not numbered at all. The cylinder of #12720, recently discovered, was properly numbered. Go figure!

 

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3.2.1.7_8 … breech side view of the cylinder of RNMA #12306 reading 106

 

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3.2.1.7_9 … typical marks on buttstrap of RNMA #12306: Note MADE IN BELGIUM and importer mark B.HARLOS RIEDEN in two lines stamped between screw head and country of origin mark

 

3.2.1.7.1

RNMA 7th Variation –Serial Number Ranges

 

RNMAs 7th variation surfaced in Germany, plus one each in Switzerland (#12301) and in the U.S.A. (#12924). Nothing is known about „Swiss“ pistol #12301 except she does not carry the B.HARLOS RIEDEN importer mark. Little information is available about the „U.S.“ one: #12924 came into the possession of an American soldier when he was stationed in Germany during the 1970s. He took her home where he had to replace the broken original cylinder with a Uberti made one.

 

RNMA 7th Variation

Lowest

Serial Number

Year

Highest

Serial Number

Year

Total

%

Total

12300

1972

12924

1972

37

100.0

 

3.2.1.7.2

RNMA 7th Variation – Pending Issues

 

When I had the chance to pick Peter Harlos’s brain on December 9, 2010 we talked about these stainless steel RNMAs. Interestingly he does not recall F.A.U.L. ever making Centaures of a stainless steel alloy.

The Belgians did not make such a variant at the request of the Bärbel Harlos company. I cannot rule out, however that they manufactured such pistols. Possibly it was on an experimental  basis.”

Except for #12301 and #12924 all RNMAs 7th variation carry the two line importer stamp B.HARLOS RIEDEN on the butt.

Harlos continued explaining they never claimed their Centaures with the „in the white“ finish were “stainless steel” pistols. Instead they rather promoted this “special heat treatment to protect the surface from flash rust”. They called this finish “stainless look”.

The fact remains, however, there are a few Centaures out there that do not rust!

Until proof is presented to the contrary, I believe F.A.U.L. made a number of RNMAs in stainless steel. These pistols might not have been regular production items but could represent more of a few extended prototype batches. This assumption is supported by the low total number of confirmed 7th variations discovered.

Be that as it may, I suggest you view any offer of a Centaure in “stainless steel” with caution and reticence until we have the chance to study more specimens of these rare RNMAs 7th variation.

 

Updated December 4, 2023

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